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[TonyDevil]

lifted from here for safe keeping

n.l. n.l 1752 ABL ATLANTIC BLUE
n.l. n.l. 15- 0617 ABL/UY ATLANTIC BLUE (XC125)
59- n.l. 18-* 1778 ARE/LG APPLE RED
49- n.l. 15- 1714 AVG/EM ALLUVIAL GOLD
49- n.l. 15-* 0921 BCR/FW BRIGHT CHERRY RED
49- n.l. 15- 0310 BDB/4V BORDER BROWN
49- n.l. 15- 1623 BDS/JX BLUISH DARK SILVER
49- n.l. 15- 1912 BG/H9 BLACK GOLD
59- n.l. n.l. 2263 BGB/F3 RS250 '74 BRIGADE BLUE
39- n.l. 13- 1831 BGS1/D8 BLUISH GREEN SOLID
68- n.l. 19-* 1637 BIB/MW BLUISH BLACK
49- n.l. 15-* 1953 BIB2/7B BLUISH BLACK 2
49- 72- 15- 1851 BL2/4B BLACK 2
68- n.l. n.l. 1736 BL2/4B BLACK 2 (VOOR SCOOTERS)
49- n.l. 15- 1515 BL3 BLACK 3
49- n.l. 15-* 1051 BMC/775 BLUE MET. C
49- n.l. 15- 1870 BM2/156 BLACK MET. 2
49- n.l. 15- 3454 BM9/448 BLUE MET. 9 (BWS)
49- n.l. 15-* 1283 BNM3/867 BLUISH GRAY METALLIC 3
49- n.l. 15- 0658 BM9/448 BLUE MET. 9 (VOOR SZR660)
n.l. n.l. 15- 0674 BPC/314 BLUE PACIFIC (BW 50)
59- n.l. 18-* 1653 BR/63 BRILLIANT RED
49- n.l. 15- 3157 BSC1/375 BLUISH BLACK COCKTAIL 1
49- n.l. 15- 1077 BSC2/703 BLUISH BLACK COCKTAIL 2
49- n.l. 15-* 1143 BS4/820 BLUISH SILVER 4
68- n.l. 19-* 1645 BWC1/390 BLUISH WHITE COCKTAIL 1
59- n.l. 18-* 1604 CB/29 CANDY BLUE
49- 72- 15- 1722 CCB/5H COSMIC BLUE
49- n.l. 15- 1995 CIS/WN CIRCUIT SILVER (WIELEN)
49- n.l. 15- 1672 CIS/WN CIRCUIT SILVER (MOTORBLOK)
59- n.l. 18-* 1661 CDR/4H CARDINAL RED
49- n.l. n.l. 0633 CGM/L2 COMPETITION GREEN MET.
68- n.l. n.l. 1710 CGN/MK CUTE GREEN
49- n.l. 15- 0583 CM3/521 CYAN MET. 3
49- n.l. 15- 3298 CMG/TK CAMELLIA GREEN
n.l. n.l. n.l. CMR/E9 CARMIN RED
n.l. n.l. 19-* 1868 CMY/AL CALM YELLOW
39- n.l. 13- 1690 CPR/E1 CHAPPY RED
39- n.l. 13- 1815 CPY/26 COMPETITION YELLOW
68- n.l. 19-* 1728 CRI/TL CERAMIC IVORY
49- n.l. 15- 1002 CST/316 CHRISTAL
49- 72- 15-* 1862 COMS/T9 COMPETITION SILVER
39- n.l. 13- 1849 CWW/UA CAST WHEEL WHITE
49- n.l. 15-* 3223 DBC2/372 DARK BLUE COCKTAIL 2
49- n.l. 15- 3231 DBG/319 DARK BLUISH GRAY
49- n.l. 15- 1615 DBGC2/213 DARK BLUISH GRAY COCK 2
49- n.l. 15- 3991 DBM2/472 DULL BLUE MET. 2
49- n.l. 15- 3900 DBNM3/445 DARK BLUISH GRAY MET. 3
49- n.l. 15-* 1432 DBNM8/919 MISTRAL GRAY
n.l. n.l. 15- 0947 DCC2/537 DARK CYAN COCKTAIL 2
49- n.l. 15- 3181 DCM2/337 DARK CYAN MET. 2
49- n.l. 15- 3314 DCM3/442 DARK CYAN MET. 3
49- n.l. 15- 0328 DCM8/679 DARK CYAN MET. 8
49- n.l. 15-* 1888 DG1/138 DARK GRAY 1
n.l. n.l. 15- 1267 DGBMD/768 DARK GRAYISH BLUE MET. D
49- n.l. 15- 3249 DGBME/158 DULL GREEN BLUE MET. 1
n.l. n.l. 15- 0294 DGM1/C1 DARK GREY MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 0484 DGM2/129 DARK GREY MET. 2
n.l. n.l. 15- 0401 DGM6/644 DULL GREEN MET. 6
n.l. n.l. 15- 1119 DGNM1/662 DARK GREENISH GRAY MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 0450 DGYM1/650 DULL GREEN YELL. MET. 1
49- 72- 15- 1854 DNBM1/9B DARK GRAY BLUE MET. 1
n.l. n.l. 15- 1366 DNBMC/829 BLUE CHILL
49- n.l. 15-* 1358 DNBME/866 DARK GRAYISH BLUE MET. E
49- n.l. 15- 0871 DNLGM1/699 DARK GRAY LEAF GREEN MET. 1
49- n.l. 15-* 1341 DNM8/809 SMOKY GRAY
49- n.l. 15-* 1408 DNMA/821 METALLIC TITANIUM
n.l. n.l. 15- 1424 DNMB/853 DIAMOND BLACK
n.l. n.l. 15- 0534 DNRC2/579 DARK GRAY RED COCK. 2
49- n.l. 15-* 1127 DNPM1/740 DARK GRAYISH PURPLE MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 0988 DNRM2/686 DARK GRAYISH RED MET. 2
n.l. n.l. n.l. DNS4/385 DARK GRAY CYAN SOLID 4
59- n.l. 18-* 1935 DOC1/512 DEEP ORANGE CANDY 1
68- n.l. 19-* 1694 DOC1/512 DEEP ORANGE CANDY 1 (VOOR SZR660)
59- n.l. 18-* 3493 DOM5/890 DEEP ORANGE MET. 5
49- n.l. 15- 1961 DPB1/104 DULL PURPL. BLUE MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 0897 DPBC3/514 DARK PURPL. BLUE CANDY 3
49- n.l. 15- 3447 DPBC3/514 DARK PURPL. BLUE CANDY 3 (VOOR ZEST50)
49- n.l. 15-* 3876 DPBM2/189 DARK PURPL. BLUE MET. 2
n.l. n.l. 15- 0542 DPBMA/546 DEEP PURPL. BLUE MET. A
49- 72-* 15-* 0567 DPBMC/564 DEEP PURPL. BLUE MET. C
n.l. n.l. 15-* 0286 DPBMC/564 VOOR SCOOTERS
68- n.l. 19-* 1801 DPBMD/589 DULL PURPL. BLUE MET. D
49- n.l. 15- 1200 DPBMJ/832 DEEP PURPLISH BLUE MET. J.
49- 72-* 15- 1226 DPBML/865 GALAXY BLUE
39- n.l. 13-* 3209 DPBSE/583 DEEP PURPL. BLUE SOLID E
49- n.l. n.l. 3215 DPM1/301 DEEP PURPLE MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 0476 DPRC3/567 DARK PURPL. RED COCKT. 3
59- n.l. 18-* 3428 DPRC4/621 DEEP PURPL. RED COCKT. 4
59- n.l. 15- 3306 DPRM3/443 DEEP PURPL. RED MET. 3
n.l. n.l. 18-* 1950 DPS/KU DEEP SCARLET
39- 88- 13- 1898 DPS1/123 DEEP PURPLE SOLID 1
59- n.l. 18-* 1877 DRC2/376 DEEP RED COCKTAIL 2
n.l. n.l. 15-* 3090 DRC4/398 DEEP RED CANDY 4
49- n.l. 15- 1649 DRGM1/103 DARK REDDISH GRAY MET. 1 (XTZ750 & XV535)
n.l. n.l. 15- 3975 DRGM1/103 DARK REDDISH GRAY MET. 1 (VOOR XV250L)
59- n.l. 18-* 3485 DRMD/779 DULL RED METALLIC D
49-** n.l. 15-* 1390 DRMK/918 LAVA RED
49- n.l. 15- 0822 DRM2/188 DEEP RED MET. 2
49- n.l. 15- 3355 DRM4/444 DEEP RED MET. 4
39- n.l. 13- 1948 DRPS1/371 DEEP REDD. PURPLE SOLID 1 (VELG)
49- n.l. 15- 0492 DRYC1/625 DEEP REDD. YELL. COCK 1
59- n.l. 18- 1679 DVC1/295 DARK VIOLET COCKTAIL 1
49- n.l. n.l. 3421 DVM1/297 DEEP VIOLET MET. 1
n.l. n.l. 15- 3918 DVM5/450 DULL VIOLET MET. 5
59- n.l. 15- 0996 DVM6/516 DEEP VIOLET MET. 6
n.l. n.l. 15-* 1457 DVMA/778 DARK VIOLET MET. A
39- 88- 13- 1856 DVS1/119 DEEP VIOLET SOLID 1
59- 75- 18- 1737 DYB/VA DYNASTY BLUE
n.l. n.l. 15- 3959 DYGM1/451 DEEP YELLOW GREEN MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 0526 DYRC2/575 DULL YELLO. RED COCK. 2
49- n.l. 15-* 1819 DYRM2/646 DULL YELLO. RED MET. 2
n.l. n.l. 15- 1374 DYRM5/868 NATURAL RED
49- n.l. 15-* 1192 EBR/TY ELEGANT BROWN
49- n.l. n.l. 1771 ETD/GV ENTICER DARK GRAY
39- n.l. 13- 1724 ETM/GW ENTICER MAROON
59- n.l. 18- 1802 EMM/97 EMPRESS MAROON
39- n.l. 13- 1674 FBL/G3 FRENCH BLUE
49- n.l. 15- 0690 FEB/OK FEATHER BLACK
39- n.l. 13- 1930 FGE/MU FOREST GREEN
39- 88- 13- 1807 FIR/FH FIRE RED (FRAME)
49- 72- 15- 1730 FIS/LK FINE SILVER
n.l. n.l. 15- 3926 FIS/LK VOOR BWS + BREEZE
39- n.l. 18- 1760 FRD/LN FINE RED
49- n.l. 15-* 3116 FRS/9G FROST SILVER
49- n.l. 15-* 3165 FRS/9G VOOR GTS 1000 '93
n.l. n.l. 15-* 1325 FS/1V FAIRY SILVER
39- 88- 13- 1781 FWB/NJ FARAWAY BLUE
n.l. n.l. 15- 0970 GBM3/557 GREENISH BLUE MET. 3
n.l. n.l. 13- 1625 GBS1/243 GREENISH BLUE SOLID 1
59- n.l. n.l. 3469 GLD/M2 GOLD DUST RD350 / 250 '74 / '73
49- n.l. 15- 3207 GM1/106 GRAY MET. 1 XTZ 660
49- n.l. 15- 1797 GMB/JN GLORIOUS MAXI BROWN
59- n.l. 18-* 1828 GNB/RL GREENISH BLACK
49- n.l. 15- 1946 GRB/FF GLITTERING BLACK
59- n.l. 18-* 1869 GRM/RO GRACEFULL MAROON
49- n.l. 15-* 0427 GYM2/2C GRAYISH YELLOW MET. 2
59- n.l. 18- 1976 HTR/EY HEAT RED
49- n.l. 15- 1847 HTS/WG HI TECH SILVER
49- n.l. 15- 1813 IB/4E INDIGO BLUE
49- n.l. n.l. 1656 LBGM2/323 LIGHT BLUISH GRAY MET. 2
n.l. n.l. 13- 1617 LGB/98 LOW GLOSS BLACK
49- n.l. 15- 1904 LGBM1/175 LIGHT GRAYISH BLUE MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 1706 LGM1/PO LIGHT GRAYISH MET. 1 (FRAME FZR1000 '91)
49- n.l. 15- 0500 LGM2/124 LIGHT GRAY MET. 2 '97
49- n.l. 15- 0708 LGM2/124 LIGHT GRAY MET. '98
49- n.l. 15- 0641 LGM3/137 LIGHT GRAY MET. 3
49- n.l. 15- 0863 LGNM6/676 LIGHT GREEN GRAY MET. 6
n.l. n.l. n.l. LGYS2/697 LIGHT GREEN YELL. SOLID 2
49- n.l. 15- 1028 LNME/727 LIGHT GRAY MET.
49- n.l. 15- 1069 LNMG/767 LIGHT GRAY MET G
49- n.l. 15-* 1309 LNMG/767 voor MAJESTY 125
49- 72-* 15-* 1234 LNMJ/822 LIGHT GRAY MET. J / TECH GRAY
49- n.l. 15-* 1499 LNMR/929 LIGHT GRAY MET. R
59- 75-* 18-* 1810 LNR/TH LUMINOUS RED
49- n.l. 15- 3397 LYGM3/101 LIGHT YELLO. GRAY MET. 3
49- n.l. 15-* 1218 LYNM9/752 LIGHT YELLO. GRAY MET. 9
49- n.l. 15- 1805 MAS/OL MARBLE SILVER
49- 72- 15- 0954 MBL2/582 MATT BLACK 2
49- n.l. 15- 1821 MDS/7M MIDNIGHT SILVER
n.l. n.l. 15- 1979 MEB/OH MELTING BLACK
39- n.l. 13- 1989 MKB/3G MILKY BROWN
49- n.l. 15- 1631 MNG/LY MIDNIGHT GRAY
59- n.l. 18-* 1729 MPR/EG MAPLE RED
59- n.l. 18-* 1968 MRE/FE MATURE RED
49- n.l. 15- 0443 MRGD/KE MARSHALL GOLD
n.l. n.l. 15- 1481 MT2/825 MAT TITAN 2 (FRAME)
39- n.l. 13- 1708 MXR/T5 MAXIM RED
59- n.l. 18-* 3394 MYM/JY MIYABI MAROON
59- n.l. 18- 1836 NBB/KM NEW BLACK BLUE
49- n.l. 15- 1531 NBM4/969 GRAYISH BLUE MET. 4
49- n.l. 15- 1920 NSD/3H NEW SILVER DUST
49- n.l. 15- 0419 NSD/3H SCOOTER
49- n.l. 15- 3389 NM3/438 GRAY MET. 3
49- n.l. 15- 3488 NM4/515 GRAY MET. 4
68- n.l. 19-* 1603 NPW/Y9 NEW PEARL WHITE
59- n.l. 18-* 1687 NRR/7J NEW RUBY RED
39- n.l. 13- 1666 NW/1A NEW WHITE
39- 88- 13- 1609 NYB/6G NEW YAMAHA BLACK
68- n.l. 19-* 1678 OC1/491 ORANGE COCKTAIL 1
49- n.l. 15- 3173 OCB/RR OCEAN BLUE MET.
n.l. n.l. 15- 2365 PBC3/574 PURPLISH BLUE CANDY 3
49- n.l. 15- 0591 PBM7/549 PURPLISH BLUE MET. 7
n.l. n.l. n.l. PGD/3E PASTELL DARK GRAY
39- n.l. 13- 1716 PLW/Y5 SHIROBAI WHITE
n.l. n.l. 13- 1740 PMIB/T7 PASTEL MINERAL BLUE
n.l. n.l. 15- 0855 PMS/HK PEPPERMINT SILVER
49- n.l. 15- 1680 POS/UF POLAR SILVER
39- 88- 13- 1906 PWS1/206 PURPLISH WHITE SOLID 1
n.l. n.l. 19- 1884 RC2/837 RED COCTAIL 2
49- n.l. 15- 1698 QS/1U QUARZ SILVER
59- n.l. 18-* 1885 RES/MV RED-E SPARKLE
39- 88- 13- 1773 RR/GH RASPBERRY RED
39- n.l. 13- 1823 RW/UJ RADICAL WHITE
68- n.l. 19-* 1660 RYC1/251 REDDISH YELLOW COCKT. 1
49- n.l. 15-* 1093 S1/755 SILVER 1
49- 72-* 15-* 1168 S3/791 SILVER 3
39- n.l. 13- 1757 SB/2F STRONG BLUE
59- 75-* 18- 1786 SBL/NA SHINY BLACK
68- n.l. 19-* 1629 SDB/HV SPLENDID BEIGE
49- n.l. 15-* 0625 SDGC1/479 SPANISH DARK GREEN C. 1
39- n.l. 13- 1872 SEDB/TV SOLID ENDURANCE BLUE
59- n.l. 15-* 0666 SHR/OM SWEAT HEART RED
n.l. n.l. 19-* 1835 SKG/EN SILKY GOLD
49- 72- 15- 1748 SL/35 SILVER
49- n.l. 15-* 3330 SLAS/95 SALT LAKE SILVER
59- n.l. 18-* 1893 SM/MX SPARKLE MAROON
49- 72-* 15-* 0830 SM1/660 SILVER MET. 1
49- n.l. 15- 3348 SM9/429 BLACK MET. 9
49- n.l. 15- 3322 SMA/441 BLACK MET. A
49- n.l. 15-* 2357 SMB/8E STAR BLUE MET.
49- n.l. 15-* 1416 SME/876 BLACK AUBERGINE / ARISTO BLACK
49- n.l. 15- 1465 SMK/938 BLACK MET. K
59- 75-* 18- 1711 SMR/AJ STORMY RED
49- n.l. 15- 1382 SMX/903 BLACK MET. X / MIDNIGHT BLACK
49- n.l. 15- 1755 SS/6M STAR SILVER
49- n.l. 15- 3371 SS/6M XJ 600 '94
49- n.l. 15- 1763 SSB/ME SAMSON BLUE
49- n.l. 15- 1664 STDS/WL STARDUST SILVER (XT600)
59- n.l. 18-* 1695 SUR/2U SUPER RED
68- 76-* 19- 1611 SW/GE SILKY WHITE
n.l. n.l. 19-* 1876 SWY/NY SWEET YELLOW
39- n.l. 13- 1682 TDB/9U TRADITIONAL BLUE
49- 72- 15- 1789 TGM/MA TITANIC GREY MET.
59- n.l. 18-* 1794 URB/JW URUSHI BLACK
49- n.l. 15- 0848 VDBC4/627 VERY DARK BLUE COCK. 4
49- n.l. 15-* 1827 VDBC5/635 VERY DARK BLUE COCK. 5
49- n.l. 15-* 1333 VDBC7/883 LINARITE
49- n.l. 15- 1987 VDBM3/266 VERY DARK BLUE MET. 3
49- n.l. 15- 0435 VDBM7/495 VERY DARK BLUE MET. 7
49- n.l. 15-* 1150 VDBMA/781 VERY DARK BLUE MET. A
59- n.l. 15- 3363 VDMC1/434 VERY DARK MAG. COCK 1
49- n.l. 15- 3140 VDVC1/370 VERY DARK VIOLET COCK. 1
68- n.l. 19- 1751 VDVC2/409 VERY DARK VIOLET COCK. 2
49- n.l. 15-* 1507 VDVM1/961 DEEP ARMOR
49- n.l. 15- 1839 VMB/AU V-MAX BLUE
68- n.l. 19-* 1652 VMC1/393 VIVID MAGENTA COCKTAIL 1
39- n.l. 13- 1914 VMS2/236 VIVID MAGENTA SOLID 2
68- n.l. 19-* 1744 VOM2/552 VIVID ORANGE MET. 2
39- n.l. 13- 1922 VR/320 VIVID RED
59- 75-* 18-* 1844 VRC1/121 VIVID RED COCKTAIL 1
59- n.l. n.l. 1620 VRC1/121 FZR1000 OVER SW/GE
59- n.l. 18- 1901 VRC1/121 VIVID RED COCKTAIL 1 METALLIC
59- 75-* 18-* 1919 VRC4/511 VIVID RED CANDY 4
59- n.l. 18-* 3402 VRC7/580 VIVID RED COCKTAIL 7
39- n.l. 13- 1658 VRSA/430 VIVID RED SOLID A
39- 88- 13- 1732 W/36 CLEAN WHITE
68- n.l. 19-* 1892 WM4/831 WHITE MET. 4 / BLIZZARD
49- n.l. 15- 1938 WPB/RU WET PALE BROWN
39- 88- 13- 1633 YB/33 YAMAHA BLACK
49- n.l. 15- 0962 YNM5/680 YELLOWISH GREY MET. 5
49- n.l. 15-* 1564 YNM9/956 YELLOWISH GREY MET. 9
39- n.l. 13- 1997 YNS3/402 YELLOWISH GRAY SOLID 3
49- n.l. 15- 1044 YSC1/704 YELLOWISH BLACK CANDY 1
59- n.l. n.l. 1646 DS7 bj. 71 CANDY GOLD
68- n.l. 19-* 1702 XV 1100 PEARL WHITE
49- n.l. 15-* 3108 FZR 1000 '92 P1 GRAYISH MET.1 FRAME
49- n.l. 15- 1896 FZR 1000 '90 BLUE MET.
49- n.l. 15- 3215 FZR 1000 '93 DEEP PURPLE MET.
49- n.l. 15-* 3892 XTZ 750 '94 GRAY MET.
68- n.l. 19-* 1702 XV 750 PEARL WHITE
n.l. n.l. 18-* 3386 TT 600 '96 LIGHT RED ORANGE
59- n.l. n.l. 3469 RD350/250 '74 '73 GOLD DUST M2
59- n.l. n.l. 1646 DS7 CANDY GOLD
49- n.l. 15- 3173 ZEST '93 OCEAN BLUE MET./BOC
n.l. n.l. 15- 0674 BW 50 '92 BLUE PACIFIC
59- n.l. n.l. 1703 V-MAX '92 DARK CANDY RED
49- n.l. 15-* 1135 GRAY MET. MOTORBLOK FJR 1300 '01
49- n.l. 15- 3124 GRAY MET. MOTORBLOK TDM 850
49- n.l. 15- 3132 SILVER MET. MOTORBLOK XJ 600 S
49- n.l. 15- 3199 SILVER MET. MOTORBLOK XV 1100
49- n.l. 15- 1580 BLACK MATT MET. MOTORBLOK BT1100 / R1 / R6

cross reference with 'JBXs most excellent' page here http://jbx9.free.fr/...x..._850&lng=en

[tdm850rider]

Great list Tony... but alphabetize them will ya?

[Geordie Guy]

Still cant work it out......

JBX has mine as a 2002 Silver Tech 3 (S3)

How do you then get the right colour silver ???

49- 72- 15-* 1862 COMS/T9 COMPETITION SILVER
49- 72- 15- 1730 FIS/LK FINE SILVER
49- n.l. 15-* 3116 FRS/9G FROST SILVER

etc..... etc.... etc...

Cheers, Ivan

[TonyDevil]

no idea sorry

[tdm850rider]

I take it this is a TDM900 colour?

n.l. n.l. 15-* 1325 FS/1V FAIRY SILVER

[jskf16]

these code in who company they are reported, who him it produces? in who machines it is reported?

mine is blue galaxy TDM 900 2003 , which code could i choose , and who company produces?

thank you!

[Geordie Guy]

these code in who company they are reported, who him it produces? in who machines it is reported?

mine is blue galaxy TDM 900 2003 , which code could i choose , and who company produces?

thank you!

You said it Jskf16........

I am still confused...

[jskf16]

i mean which company fix that paints , STANDOX? MAX MEYER? who?

These code they is for the right order ready painted plastic!

[dwayne dibley]

More info on all of the paint codes for all of the models ( if someone wants to change the color of his TDM):

here.

Eeerrrmmmmm! Yep that helps

[jskf16]

sorry but these paints not exist!

yamaha never give untill today codes for paints!

[Buddner]

sorry but these paints not exist!

yamaha never give untill today codes for paints!

I dropped my 06 black TDM out side a freins house the other day, when i stopped i put my foot down into a pot hole and lost my balence, the finish is metalic black, is it possable to get a tin of spray made up using the colour code that are supplies here and if so has anyone any idea what code it is?????? Is there anywhere on the bike its self that gives the colour code?????????

Edited by Buddner, 21 June 2010 - 04:59 pm.

[Tomr2992]

Perfect timing this post being promoted! 

 

Thanks

[DavG]

If anyone is interested I've been struggling to find a match on the engine colour for my 05 9er  the Yamaha colour is code 00WN Circuit Silver, Rang and emailed loads of companies with no joy. Had help from local powder coating company and Stornoway grey which is a Landrover colour is spot on and a lot easier to get mixed up..

[Catteeclan]

I got some from RS paints, not cheap though.